Comments on: Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey's Green Childhood Vaccines: Oxymoron or a Possibilty? http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/ Green and Natural Parenting for Eco-Friendly Families Wed, 23 May 2012 08:22:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jennifer http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3497 Jennifer Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:45:45 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3497 I don't think that the issue we need to be discussing here is the slogan "Green Our Vaccines". This is a slogan that's attention grabbing in our society right now. Obviously this slogan has helped the cause gain more attention. What we NEED to be discussing is the TRUTH behind these claims. I think it's moronic to think that the chemicals in vaccines are a positive to a child. We already know the dangers of mercury and aluminum to an adult individual. Why would we give this to our children? Why would we assume this is ok? Just because the government and mass media says so? If your neighbor jumped off a cliff, would you too? Or better yet, should we just wait 20 years for the results of the tests that the public will demand on these vaccines? Then we can all wish we had taken the toxins out of them more quickly. I know a lot of people who believed that there was no direct cause of lung cancer from tobacco use. These people, if they were alive, would wish the government and it's interest groups would have been more fourthcoming with the truth. So pick on the slogan if you will... BUT DO pay attention to the truth that's behind it. I don’t think that the issue we need to be discussing here is the slogan “Green Our Vaccines”. This is a slogan that’s attention grabbing in our society right now. Obviously this slogan has helped the cause gain more attention. What we NEED to be discussing is the TRUTH behind these claims. I think it’s moronic to think that the chemicals in vaccines are a positive to a child. We already know the dangers of mercury and aluminum to an adult individual. Why would we give this to our children? Why would we assume this is ok? Just because the government and mass media says so? If your neighbor jumped off a cliff, would you too? Or better yet, should we just wait 20 years for the results of the tests that the public will demand on these vaccines? Then we can all wish we had taken the toxins out of them more quickly. I know a lot of people who believed that there was no direct cause of lung cancer from tobacco use. These people, if they were alive, would wish the government and it’s interest groups would have been more fourthcoming with the truth. So pick on the slogan if you will… BUT DO pay attention to the truth that’s behind it.

]]> By: Jennifer Lance http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3496 Jennifer Lance Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:56:29 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3496 Scarlett's mom, According to Dr. Sears, thimerosal (mercury) is no longer an issue and has "been taken out of virtually all vaccines." Unfortunately, it is still present in the flu and tetanus vaccines and vaccines we ship to third world countries. 1 percent of mercury still exists in some brands of shots compared to early 1990s levels. If you know the right brands (Dr. Sears tells you in his book), you can vaccinate 100% mercury-free, but not aluminum-free, which Dr. Sears feels is a concern currently. Scarlett’s mom,
According to Dr. Sears, thimerosal (mercury) is no longer an issue and has “been taken out of virtually all vaccines.” Unfortunately, it is still present in the flu and tetanus vaccines and vaccines we ship to third world countries. 1 percent of mercury still exists in some brands of shots compared to early 1990s levels. If you know the right brands (Dr. Sears tells you in his book), you can vaccinate 100% mercury-free, but not aluminum-free, which Dr. Sears feels is a concern currently.

]]> By: scarletts mom http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3495 scarletts mom Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:39:58 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3495 i'm not sure whoever wrote this article did much research the vaccines have hardly any aluminum in vaccines and that isnt what is causing the damage. it's the mercury. you know the stuff in old school thermometers.they mainly put it in the MMR shot and other combined shots so that the vaccines can blend but each had a seperate effect. that is what is leading to autism. you can actually kill someone with a decent size dose of mercury it is extremely toxic. what i dont understand is how thegovernment can allow these vaccines to be used when they are now extimating that 1 in every 150 kids is getting autism because of these vaccines. they make everything else bad illegal why not these poisonous vaccines??? this is one mom that is scared to get my daughter vaccinated, because of fear that she would become autistic. i still will get her vaccinated, but i'm scared to do so. i’m not sure whoever wrote this article did much research the vaccines have hardly any aluminum in vaccines and that isnt what is causing the damage. it’s the mercury. you know the stuff in old school thermometers.they mainly put it in the MMR shot and other combined shots so that the vaccines can blend but each had a seperate effect. that is what is leading to autism. you can actually kill someone with a decent size dose of mercury it is extremely toxic. what i dont understand is how thegovernment can allow these vaccines to be used when they are now extimating that 1 in every 150
kids is getting autism because of these vaccines. they make everything else bad illegal why not these poisonous vaccines???

this is one mom that is scared to get my daughter vaccinated, because of fear that she would become autistic. i still will get her vaccinated, but i’m scared to do so.

]]> By: sus http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3494 sus Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:40:21 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3494 Dr's who refuse to have an alternative schedule for vaccinations based on their basic principals of "human leukocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex" as one of the previous blogs indicate, or fear of what might happen to your kid, are arrogant and controlling & not interested or understanding of the individuals that they serve! Bottom line is different kids are effected differently by the drugs, antigens, and toxins put in their body- Know your kid, trust your dr- if you don't, find one who you can. Don't let them bully you into a dumb decision! Dr’s who refuse to have an alternative schedule for vaccinations based on their basic principals of “human leukocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex” as one of the previous blogs indicate, or fear of what might happen to your kid, are arrogant and controlling & not interested or understanding of the individuals that they serve! Bottom line is different kids are effected differently by the drugs, antigens, and toxins put in their body- Know your kid, trust your dr- if you don’t, find one who you can. Don’t let them bully you into a dumb decision!

]]> By: Jennifer Lance http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3488 Jennifer Lance Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:28:56 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3488 Jodi, Dr. Sears' book offers an alternative vaccine schedule. http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/01/14/to-vaccinate-or-not-to-vaccinate/ I am not an expert on autism spectrum disorders, but some of the early signs are children that do not respond to their names or do not like to be cuddled or make eye contact. Is your child talking? Late talking is not always a sign of autism (my son has a delay in expressive language skills but is not autistic). Recently, a speech therapist told me that one clue is how other children react to the child. This is often a sign something is going on with a child if other children do not want to play with him/her. Do remember, at two-years-old, a child would be participating in parallel play and not truly engaging with another child yet. You should really talk to your doctor if you are concerned. Jodi, Dr. Sears’ book offers an alternative vaccine schedule.
http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/01/14/to-vaccinate-or-not-to-vaccinate/
I am not an expert on autism spectrum disorders, but some of the early signs are children that do not respond to their names or do not like to be cuddled or make eye contact. Is your child talking? Late talking is not always a sign of autism (my son has a delay in expressive language skills but is not autistic). Recently, a speech therapist told me that one clue is how other children react to the child. This is often a sign something is going on with a child if other children do not want to play with him/her. Do remember, at two-years-old, a child would be participating in parallel play and not truly engaging with another child yet. You should really talk to your doctor if you are concerned.

]]> By: jodi http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3489 jodi Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:19:45 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3489 does anyone know what shots make up the 36? i have a 2 yr old and i am very interested in certain "habits" he has i believe may be signs of autismn. i am a nurse but do not believe in the general practices in medicine we have developed today and think they def give way too many shots! any info would be appreciated! thanks does anyone know what shots make up the 36? i have a 2 yr old and i am very interested in certain “habits” he has i believe may be signs of autismn. i am a nurse but do not believe in the general practices in medicine we have developed today and think they def give way too many shots! any info would be appreciated! thanks

]]> By: drjbw http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3490 drjbw Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:19:13 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3490 Well done Doug, absolutely correct. As for the "too much, too soon" argument, I am constantly amazed by the fact that the majority who support this argument lack even a rudimentary understanding of immunology or vaccine mechanisms of action. Mark, I would like to ask you to please post your sources (primary only please) regarding Japan's rationale for their age schedule as well as the sources on systemic side effects being substantially higher under 2 years of age. However, by simple logic one can deduce that the systemic side effect claim is false. Furthermore, what is applicable in Japan is not in the US. While children seem quite similar, kids in Japan are not immunologically comparable to those in the US. To understand this, you would require a knowledge of the genetics of the human leukocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex. This should only take 1 year of graduate school courses to give you the basics. As Doug said, doctors are the experts. To think that every doctor in the US is ignorant (compared to actors!), lying, or involved in a conspiracy regarding vaccine safety is the height of paranoia. History will show that this anti and green vaccine group rather than aiding the advancement of pediatric health, ultimately detracted from it. These groups are siphoning time, attention and money from research that could truly further our knowledge of the mechanisms of autism and instead focusing it on scapegoat "toxins" that have been repeatedly exonerated by multiple world medical organizations. Well done Doug, absolutely correct. As for the “too much, too soon” argument, I am constantly amazed by the fact that the majority who support this argument lack even a rudimentary understanding of immunology or vaccine mechanisms of action. Mark, I would like to ask you to please post your sources (primary only please) regarding Japan’s rationale for their age schedule as well as the sources on systemic side effects being substantially higher under 2 years of age. However, by simple logic one can deduce that the systemic side effect claim is false. Furthermore, what is applicable in Japan is not in the US. While children seem quite similar, kids in Japan are not immunologically comparable to those in the US. To understand this, you would require a knowledge of the genetics of the human leukocyte antigen/major histocompatability complex. This should only take 1 year of graduate school courses to give you the basics. As Doug said, doctors are the experts. To think that every doctor in the US is ignorant (compared to actors!), lying, or involved in a conspiracy regarding vaccine safety is the height of paranoia. History will show that this anti and green vaccine group rather than aiding the advancement of pediatric health, ultimately detracted from it. These groups are siphoning time, attention and money from research that could truly further our knowledge of the mechanisms of autism and instead focusing it on scapegoat “toxins” that have been repeatedly exonerated by multiple world medical organizations.

]]> By: Doug http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3487 Doug Fri, 23 May 2008 16:36:39 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3487 Aluminum salts are added to the vaccines in order to stimulate the immune response. Vaccines without it have shown to be less effective. The amount of aluminum in the vaccines is less than what is in breast milk. I suggest you get your medical advice from doctors, not B-movie actors. Aluminum salts are added to the vaccines in order to stimulate the immune response. Vaccines without it have shown to be less effective. The amount of aluminum in the vaccines is less than what is in breast milk.

I suggest you get your medical advice from doctors, not B-movie actors.

]]> By: Jennifer Lance http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3491 Jennifer Lance Thu, 22 May 2008 13:11:12 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3491 Mark, I remember reading about Japan, and that was one reason we waited to get my daughter DTAP after two-years-old (that's her only vaccine). Unfortunately though, the death from pertussis that happened this year in Sonoma County, CA was from a very young baby (I think two months old). Mark, I remember reading about Japan, and that was one reason we waited to get my daughter DTAP after two-years-old (that’s her only vaccine). Unfortunately though, the death from pertussis that happened this year in Sonoma County, CA was from a very young baby (I think two months old).

]]> By: mark http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3492 mark Thu, 22 May 2008 04:30:39 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/2008/05/21/jenny-mccarthy-and-jim-carreys-green-childhood-vaccines-oxymoron-or-a-possibilty/#comment-3492 in japan most vaccines don't start till age 2. % of systemic side effects in kids under 2 is much much higher. over 2, side effects are mostly local to the injection site. i agree - too much too soon. in japan most vaccines don’t start till age 2.

% of systemic side effects in kids under 2 is much much higher. over 2, side effects are mostly local to the injection site.

i agree – too much too soon.

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