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		<title>By: Common sense</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-22135</link>
		<dc:creator>Common sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homebirth deaths make the news because they are rare. The only reason we don&#039;t hear about hospital birth deaths is because they are so common.  Figure it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homebirth deaths make the news because they are rare. The only reason we don&#8217;t hear about hospital birth deaths is because they are so common.  Figure it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-21105</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just becaue a Dr/Nurse/Midwfie/Medical Professional is involved, it doesn&#039;t mean they have the right to violate a woman withoutr consent.  My 2nd son was born in hospital and I was subjected to being checked for dilation and my cervix being pushed aside (from 9cm to 10cm) against my will.  In my definition this is birth rape.  Those who have fortunately not been subjected to this cannot understand.  And there are those who have been subjected to this who think it must be OK as it was a Medical Professional.

I believe that birth is natural and doesn&#039;t need to be medically managed (or mismanaged as the case may be).  The interference rate is uacceptably high (forceps/ventouse/c-section) and puts women and babies at risk.  I ended up with an infection as did my baby after my 2nd birth (hospital).  My 1st was born at a midwfie unit.

Due to the awful treatment and awful birth that I am positive wwas due to being in hosptial I decided to free-birth my 3rd baby.  He was born perfectly and safely at home with no medical personnel present.  I am sick of the scaremongering around unassisted births.  Those of us who do birth unassisted are well-researched, take good care of ourselves during pregnancy and are prepared.  Babies die in hospitals as well, and for me I believe the risks are worse there for a healthy woman with ahealthy pregnancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just becaue a Dr/Nurse/Midwfie/Medical Professional is involved, it doesn&#8217;t mean they have the right to violate a woman withoutr consent.  My 2nd son was born in hospital and I was subjected to being checked for dilation and my cervix being pushed aside (from 9cm to 10cm) against my will.  In my definition this is birth rape.  Those who have fortunately not been subjected to this cannot understand.  And there are those who have been subjected to this who think it must be OK as it was a Medical Professional.</p>
<p>I believe that birth is natural and doesn&#8217;t need to be medically managed (or mismanaged as the case may be).  The interference rate is uacceptably high (forceps/ventouse/c-section) and puts women and babies at risk.  I ended up with an infection as did my baby after my 2nd birth (hospital).  My 1st was born at a midwfie unit.</p>
<p>Due to the awful treatment and awful birth that I am positive wwas due to being in hosptial I decided to free-birth my 3rd baby.  He was born perfectly and safely at home with no medical personnel present.  I am sick of the scaremongering around unassisted births.  Those of us who do birth unassisted are well-researched, take good care of ourselves during pregnancy and are prepared.  Babies die in hospitals as well, and for me I believe the risks are worse there for a healthy woman with ahealthy pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nita wife and mommy of 4(+1)</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-20091</link>
		<dc:creator>Nita wife and mommy of 4(+1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When, if by you experience this harmful behavior from MD&#039;s, you realize you&#039;re being misused; it is too late to get another. As a nurse, I have witnessed inappropriate behaviors from doctors. Reporting, which does nothing, and trying to compensate with tlc, can not make a difference. 

I experienced, personally, a birth assault my last delivery. I was in the hospital under a midwife&#039;s care. I hadn&#039;t been there an 45 minutes. After my water broke I was suddenly 10cm and they decided it was time for me to push. After pushing for 20 minutes the MD entered asking what was taking so long. My midwife suggested we wait for the head to mold more, maybe an hour. The MD insisted she was tired and didn&#039;t want to be sleep during an emergency. My son and my vitals were fine, yet I was wheeled to the OR against my will. My midwife looked bewildered. I reminded them I had not signed the C section papers. They asked my husband to sign for me. He refused and security was called. I pushed as hard as I could during transfer and my son&#039;s head engaged nicely. At that point, the MD asked for me to be &quot;supported&quot;(restrained). A nurse anesthetist shot an antiemetic into my IV, without warning. (I found out later what it was.) The MD grabbed forcepts, shoved them inside me without warning and began to yank. (All in the name of CPD)The entire staff appeared mortifed. I gathered myself enough to yell out, &quot;I AM A NURSE AND I KNOW THIS IS WRONG!&quot; 

Suddenly, the MD relinquishes control to my midwife and stands aside. My healty baby boy is delivered into they arms of my midwife. Security enters as my son enters the world and the MD tells a nurse to tell them they were no longer needed. The MD seemed shocked I had no tears.

During the remainder of our stay, we were hospital &quot;royalty.&quot; We received written apologies and sympathies. I will never trust that hospital again.

My son is our fourth child. We are expecting number five. Our fifth unmedicated birth. We may be at a new hospital; but I definitely understand where these women are coming from. 

We forget what women acutally were dying from before medical advances. Their living conditions played a large part and overall health. Most things about hospital birth work against healthy delivery. More cervical checks = increased risk of infection. They still check constantly. Artificial rupture of membranes increase ROI. Use of pitocin increase chances of fetal distress. Pitocin is often used. Medical interventions increase chance of C section. Delivery by C section increases the chance a newborn requiring assistance breathing; along with other things. We must truly educate and refrain from placing ourselves completely in the hands of others. 

Why consider this woman a criminal? The very same outcome occurs in hospitals daily. No one is arrested. We just understand they did all they could. 

Who rallies against elective C section? That is Major surgery. Why are others thinking for us? The doctors are not to make decisions for us. They are to assist in educating us enough to make our own decisions.

It is interesting how snap judgements come from &quot;adults&quot;. I shudder to think who may be serving jury duty with me. I am afraid because their votes count just as mine. SOS please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When, if by you experience this harmful behavior from MD&#8217;s, you realize you&#8217;re being misused; it is too late to get another. As a nurse, I have witnessed inappropriate behaviors from doctors. Reporting, which does nothing, and trying to compensate with tlc, can not make a difference. </p>
<p>I experienced, personally, a birth assault my last delivery. I was in the hospital under a midwife&#8217;s care. I hadn&#8217;t been there an 45 minutes. After my water broke I was suddenly 10cm and they decided it was time for me to push. After pushing for 20 minutes the MD entered asking what was taking so long. My midwife suggested we wait for the head to mold more, maybe an hour. The MD insisted she was tired and didn&#8217;t want to be sleep during an emergency. My son and my vitals were fine, yet I was wheeled to the OR against my will. My midwife looked bewildered. I reminded them I had not signed the C section papers. They asked my husband to sign for me. He refused and security was called. I pushed as hard as I could during transfer and my son&#8217;s head engaged nicely. At that point, the MD asked for me to be &#8220;supported&#8221;(restrained). A nurse anesthetist shot an antiemetic into my IV, without warning. (I found out later what it was.) The MD grabbed forcepts, shoved them inside me without warning and began to yank. (All in the name of CPD)The entire staff appeared mortifed. I gathered myself enough to yell out, &#8220;I AM A NURSE AND I KNOW THIS IS WRONG!&#8221; </p>
<p>Suddenly, the MD relinquishes control to my midwife and stands aside. My healty baby boy is delivered into they arms of my midwife. Security enters as my son enters the world and the MD tells a nurse to tell them they were no longer needed. The MD seemed shocked I had no tears.</p>
<p>During the remainder of our stay, we were hospital &#8220;royalty.&#8221; We received written apologies and sympathies. I will never trust that hospital again.</p>
<p>My son is our fourth child. We are expecting number five. Our fifth unmedicated birth. We may be at a new hospital; but I definitely understand where these women are coming from. </p>
<p>We forget what women acutally were dying from before medical advances. Their living conditions played a large part and overall health. Most things about hospital birth work against healthy delivery. More cervical checks = increased risk of infection. They still check constantly. Artificial rupture of membranes increase ROI. Use of pitocin increase chances of fetal distress. Pitocin is often used. Medical interventions increase chance of C section. Delivery by C section increases the chance a newborn requiring assistance breathing; along with other things. We must truly educate and refrain from placing ourselves completely in the hands of others. </p>
<p>Why consider this woman a criminal? The very same outcome occurs in hospitals daily. No one is arrested. We just understand they did all they could. </p>
<p>Who rallies against elective C section? That is Major surgery. Why are others thinking for us? The doctors are not to make decisions for us. They are to assist in educating us enough to make our own decisions.</p>
<p>It is interesting how snap judgements come from &#8220;adults&#8221;. I shudder to think who may be serving jury duty with me. I am afraid because their votes count just as mine. SOS please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashlee</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-18981</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 19:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my gosh, the ignorance of some of these commenters. I&#039;m open to all choices as long as a trained professional is on the premises. To say that hospitals rape you and are germ infested and you&#039;re neglectful for giving birth on one is so ridiculous that I hope that poster never reproduces.

To say homebirths are careless and stupid is idiotic.

To say that freebirth is stupid is very true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh, the ignorance of some of these commenters. I&#8217;m open to all choices as long as a trained professional is on the premises. To say that hospitals rape you and are germ infested and you&#8217;re neglectful for giving birth on one is so ridiculous that I hope that poster never reproduces.</p>
<p>To say homebirths are careless and stupid is idiotic.</p>
<p>To say that freebirth is stupid is very true.</p>
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		<title>By: Free</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-11478</link>
		<dc:creator>Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omigosh the ignorance of this article.</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-11473</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw no statistics to back up your assertions about safety during birth.  Perhaps some empiricism would be useful rather than anecdotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw no statistics to back up your assertions about safety during birth.  Perhaps some empiricism would be useful rather than anecdotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Krysten</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-11471</link>
		<dc:creator>Krysten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I cannot see the wisdom in it.

Neither can Ms. Fraser’s baby.&quot;



Absolutely disgusting comment. You should be ashamed to have written it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I cannot see the wisdom in it.</p>
<p>Neither can Ms. Fraser’s baby.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely disgusting comment. You should be ashamed to have written it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kayla</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-11470</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a twit, she murdered her baby... Even if it was by accident.</description>
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		<title>By: We Have A Winner! Kiss My Face Giveaway</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-11468</link>
		<dc:creator>We Have A Winner! Kiss My Face Giveaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] whose response was, The article I most enjoyed recently was “How Safe Is Your Home Birth?” by Jessica Gottlieb. I passed it on to several [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] whose response was, The article I most enjoyed recently was “How Safe Is Your Home Birth?” by Jessica Gottlieb. I passed it on to several [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Woman Has Hospital Birth, Dies of Meningitis</title>
		<link>http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/04/14/she-called-it-birth-rape/#comment-11467</link>
		<dc:creator>Woman Has Hospital Birth, Dies of Meningitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many people around the blogosphere has been pointing to the death of homebirth advocate Janet Frazer&#8217;s baby with a gigantic, &#8220;See?&#8230;See?!&#8221; (followed by a &#8220;Na-na-na-na-boo-bo!&#8221;), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] many people around the blogosphere has been pointing to the death of homebirth advocate Janet Frazer&#8217;s baby with a gigantic, &#8220;See?&#8230;See?!&#8221; (followed by a &#8220;Na-na-na-na-boo-bo!&#8221;), [...]</p>
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