Comments on: Can the Financial Crisis Help Lower the C-Section Rate? http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/ Green and Natural Parenting for Eco-Friendly Families Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:34:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WHO: All C-Sections “Put Women at Increased Risk of Adverse Events, Including Death” http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13970 WHO: All C-Sections “Put Women at Increased Risk of Adverse Events, Including Death” Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:57:54 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13970 [...] procedure overused in many countries throughout the world. As we’ve reported before, the US c-section rate is 31.8%, half of those being elective procedures, and that rate continues to rise. WHO recommends [...] [...] procedure overused in many countries throughout the world. As we’ve reported before, the US c-section rate is 31.8%, half of those being elective procedures, and that rate continues to rise. WHO recommends [...]

]]> By: stock investment tips http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13954 stock investment tips Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:35:20 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13954 Unless you notice that cesareans cost a lot more than vaginal births. Add to that recovery time in the hospital for mama and babe, medications, and follow-up care, and you can almost hear the cha-ching! Unless you notice that cesareans cost a lot more than vaginal births. Add to that recovery time in the hospital for mama and babe, medications, and follow-up care, and you can almost hear the cha-ching!

]]> By: Kayris http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13940 Kayris Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:42:19 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13940 The thing is, unless you have access to a person's financial records, you have no business saying that they can't afford their kids. Being on Medicaid has more to do with not being able to afford insurance than not being able to afford kids. Consider that in many states, midwifery is illegal, so a pregnant woman either has to give birth at home and alone, or go to a hospital and have medical interventions and possibly surgery forced on her. And then she can be denied health insurance because of "pregnancy complications." In contrast, a friend of mine delivered at home with a midwife in attendance and the delivery and 9 months worth of care cost her 600 dollars which is FAR below what my 2 hospital births WITH insurance costs. The system is screwed up and health costs keep rising and that is why people end up on medicaid. You might be surprised that many of the married couples that you think can afford their kids are actually neck deep in debt. How about a little less judgement and more compassion. The thing is, unless you have access to a person’s financial records, you have no business saying that they can’t afford their kids. Being on Medicaid has more to do with not being able to afford insurance than not being able to afford kids. Consider that in many states, midwifery is illegal, so a pregnant woman either has to give birth at home and alone, or go to a hospital and have medical interventions and possibly surgery forced on her. And then she can be denied health insurance because of “pregnancy complications.” In contrast, a friend of mine delivered at home with a midwife in attendance and the delivery and 9 months worth of care cost her 600 dollars which is FAR below what my 2 hospital births WITH insurance costs. The system is screwed up and health costs keep rising and that is why people end up on medicaid. You might be surprised that many of the married couples that you think can afford their kids are actually neck deep in debt. How about a little less judgement and more compassion.

]]> By: Lisa http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13946 Lisa Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:13:14 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13946 Oh yeah, forgot that your system is supposed to be so awesome we all are getting passports & spending hours/days getting there just to get immediate "care" by your overpaid butchers....I mean doctors. Sorry, the unnecessary surgery rate in places down there always makes me forget what profession I'm talking about. Oh yeah, forgot that your system is supposed to be so awesome we all are getting passports & spending hours/days getting there just to get immediate “care” by your overpaid butchers….I mean doctors. Sorry, the unnecessary surgery rate in places down there always makes me forget what profession I’m talking about.

]]> By: Jupiter http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13953 Jupiter Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:30:54 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13953 Crimson, Many abortions are paid for using Medicaid. I imagine that must really piss you off! Oh,wait...but if those fetuses are aborted...hmm...then you won't end up supporting the children of irresponsible whores, so maybe that is a bit more acceptable just to abort. Saves you money in the long run! Ah,the dilemmas of classist discrimination & moral judgments concerning personal responsibilities of others. Crimson, Many abortions are paid for using Medicaid. I imagine that must really piss you off! Oh,wait…but if those fetuses are aborted…hmm…then you won’t end up supporting the children of irresponsible whores, so maybe that is a bit more acceptable just to abort. Saves you money in the long run!

Ah,the dilemmas of classist discrimination & moral judgments concerning personal responsibilities of others.

]]> By: Rashel http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13944 Rashel Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:43:17 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13944 Without reading all the comments, only the first page, I just want to address the Necessity of C-Section for Breech. This is absolutely untrue! About 100 years ago doctors *preferred* breeches because they found them EASIER! What happened to that? I have seen many videos of breech babies delivered vaginally. At a teaching hospital/midwifery school in Ontario, Canada, they are teaching new students the "old" method of delivering breech babies. Breech is simply NOT an emergency ALWAYS needing to end in C-section. Without reading all the comments, only the first page, I just want to address the Necessity of C-Section for Breech. This is absolutely untrue! About 100 years ago doctors *preferred* breeches because they found them EASIER! What happened to that? I have seen many videos of breech babies delivered vaginally. At a teaching hospital/midwifery school in Ontario, Canada, they are teaching new students the “old” method of delivering breech babies. Breech is simply NOT an emergency ALWAYS needing to end in C-section.

]]> By: Summer http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13943 Summer Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:40:13 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13943 Well in Crimson's perfect world all married couples are sunshine and flowers and responsible and perfect. But only if they follow her version of God, I'm sure. And all the filthy, irresponsible whores who dare to have sex outside of her ideal confines of marriage deserve what they get. Eh, her attitudes are a dime a dozen and have far more to do with her perceived moral superiority than anything else. She just wants you all to know that she's so much better than you and because of that you deserve to life in poverty and die suffering. That will teach you to keep your legs closed and your bible open! Well in Crimson’s perfect world all married couples are sunshine and flowers and responsible and perfect. But only if they follow her version of God, I’m sure. And all the filthy, irresponsible whores who dare to have sex outside of her ideal confines of marriage deserve what they get. Eh, her attitudes are a dime a dozen and have far more to do with her perceived moral superiority than anything else. She just wants you all to know that she’s so much better than you and because of that you deserve to life in poverty and die suffering. That will teach you to keep your legs closed and your bible open!

]]> By: Cate Nelson http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13939 Cate Nelson Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:24:49 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13939 Well, Crimson. Let's see here. Many, many women are single moms because they leave bad relationships. Abusive relationships, even. And/or they don't get child support from the fathers. So they live in poverty. I suppose a misogynist would advocate that we punish the children for the supposed "crimes" of their mothers (moms only though). We should punish them for these financial situations beyond their doing. Or perhaps the "irresponsible" moms could stay in horrible--possibly abusive--relationships instead? Then when the kids grow up (or even as juveniles), your tax dollars can pay for their incarceration instead! I left a bad relationship to be a single mom. Said partner was not abusive until well into the relationship. After I had a table thrown at me and was beaten up while pregnant, I cut off all contact. I also quit my job, moved, and changed my number. Those things can definitely lead to financial problems. Obviously "irresponsible" of me, all said. Well, Crimson. Let’s see here.
Many, many women are single moms because they leave bad relationships. Abusive relationships, even.
And/or they don’t get child support from the fathers.
So they live in poverty.
I suppose a misogynist would advocate that we punish the children for the supposed “crimes” of their mothers (moms only though). We should punish them for these financial situations beyond their doing.

Or perhaps the “irresponsible” moms could stay in horrible–possibly abusive–relationships instead? Then when the kids grow up (or even as juveniles), your tax dollars can pay for their incarceration instead!

I left a bad relationship to be a single mom. Said partner was not abusive until well into the relationship. After I had a table thrown at me and was beaten up while pregnant, I cut off all contact. I also quit my job, moved, and changed my number. Those things can definitely lead to financial problems.
Obviously “irresponsible” of me, all said.

]]> By: Crimson Wife http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13965 Crimson Wife Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:27:43 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13965 35.7% of all children in families headed by an unmarried woman are on Medicaid compared to only 5.7% of children in families where the parents are married to each other. So while a few married couples are broke enough to qualify for Medicaid, it's only 1 out of 20 vs. 1 in 3 single moms. What you do with your own life is your business until you come asking me to pay for the natural consequences of your irresponsible behavior. 35.7% of all children in families headed by an unmarried woman are on Medicaid compared to only 5.7% of children in families where the parents are married to each other. So while a few married couples are broke enough to qualify for Medicaid, it’s only 1 out of 20 vs. 1 in 3 single moms.

What you do with your own life is your business until you come asking me to pay for the natural consequences of your irresponsible behavior.

]]> By: Cate Nelson http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/08/11/can-the-financial-crisis-help-lower-the-c-section-rate/#comment-13947 Cate Nelson Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:39:50 +0000 http://ecochildsplay.com/?p=4358#comment-13947 Well Lisa, you're Canadian, right? So logically, you and your entire "litter" come down to the States for your health care so you don't die up there waiting for an appointment, right? So...aren't you on my tax dollars too? ;) http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/07/17/democrats-want-to-force-you-to-give-birth-naturally/ Well Lisa, you’re Canadian, right? So logically, you and your entire “litter” come down to the States for your health care so you don’t die up there waiting for an appointment, right?
So…aren’t you on my tax dollars too? ;)

http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/07/17/democrats-want-to-force-you-to-give-birth-naturally/

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