It’s a parents worse nightmare to have your child to have a child injured or die from a vaccination. It’s one of those situation where you want a do over. If you could just go back in time.
Pressured by public health to do what is right and protect your child from preventable diseases, parents’ hearts have been broken over and over again as children develop autism or other disabilities as a result.
Even those incidents are relatively rare, except perhaps for autism, they happen to families. Even though the link between autism and vaccinations has not been proven, parents know. The same holds true for a tragedy involving the flu vaccination in Vermont.
A seven-year-old girl died after receiving a flu shot last month. Seven Days reports:
Nicole and Justin Matten of Barton have lived every parent’s worst nightmare. On December 2 their 7-year-old daughter, Kaylynne, visited her physician for an annual checkup. She got a flu shot. The next day, she developed a bad headache and fever. On December 6, the normally happy and healthy girl, who had no previous history of chronic health problems or adverse reactions to vaccines, turned blue, stopped breathing and died in her mother’s arms…
The state medical examiner has yet to determine the girl’s exact cause of death; the autopsy report is due within a few weeks. State health officials are also investigating the tragedy. Any child’s death “puts a hole in everyone’s gut, and when one dies, we all have to ask a lot of questions,” says Vermont Health Commissioner Dr. Harry Chen.
“We’re just waiting for an answer,” says Kaylynne’s mom, “but we believe in our hearts that it was the flu shot…
Chen and other state health officials are more worried about the effects of news reports prematurely linking the Barton girl’s death to the flu shot: specifically, that more parents will opt out of immunizing their children, or themselves, against seasonal influenza.
I am not 100% anti-vaccine. They do save lives and eliminate diseases, such as polio, from maintaining epidemic levels. I do believe we over vaccinate our children, and the flu shot, in particular, is one I do not believe in. It’s effectiveness is questionable and largely based on a guessing what strains will be rampant during that particular flu season. It is also still preserved with thimersol but can be obtained without.
I just can’t imagine what this family is facing. It reminds me of when you hear about other tragedies, like families dying in car accidents or children with cancer. It is easy to remove oneself and think we are immune, but we aren’t. I learned this when my son was born with a congenital heart defect. We all know someone, and some day, that person my be us.
It is extremely reckless for this author and site to post anything with sucha statement: “Even though the link between autism and vaccinations has not been proven, parents know. ” This has been disproven time and time again. How can you explain those children that have never been near a vaccine whom are diagnosed with developmental disorders?
There are so many variables in human development and epigenetics. We cannot exactly know which exposure or combination of exposures at what time caused the variance in development. I have a son with childhood apraxia of speech. We have been to a neurologist and told that even with extensive testing, we would never really know. As a mother, I suspect the high fever I had during the first trimester. I don’t really need an answer, and my motherly instincts are enough for me.
If you have your children vaccinated, it is your duty to inform all humans that will be near your children, especially infants, elderly, and anyone with a compromised immune system, since many of these vaccines shed (that means the person who received them are contagious), and this is actually what keeps these diseases alive and is causing the epidemics of recent. You could inadvertently kill another (not the other way around – herd immunity is a false hood and doesn’t logically make sense under any terms or how many times you tell yourself or hear it). How come no one gets the small pox disease anymore??? It’s reckless to inject an infant or small child with known toxins/carcinogens when they are helpless just because you are ignorant. Do your research, or grow your soul – whichever applies to you…
@Mommy, I’m trying to understand your post. You say “how come no one gets the small pox disease anymore???” Are you implying that we don’t get small pox because we are no longer vaccinated for small pox? Not, as modern science would suggest, that we don’t get small pox because we vaccinated against it until it no longer exists in the human population? I understand that vacccines, like most unseen/unknown things, can be scary. But to live the life we live today–without many of the horrible diseases other generations had to worry about–is a luxury, and it is a luxury provided to us by those who choose to vaccinate.
@Mommy, Thank you for this post, so true!!!!!
@Mommy, I’m not sure whether to pity you or hate you for being SO stupid. Nothing you said makes any sense. Have you ever taken a microbiology course or are you just reading poorly written articles on the internet like this one? If you’re going to post your opinions then have the research and data to back up your points, otherwise you look like an ignorant individual.
@Dissappointed, You along with Hannah stick out like a soar thumb, what Mommy is saying is true, how do you not know this?
I know these things because I’m in pharmacy college learning about how the mechanisms of vaccines and how they work. I know it’s very easy to be swayed by fear. It’s understandable that you’re scared that this could happen to you, but you need to realize that these are RARE events. “Mommy” and you are trying to scare people into thinking that vaccines are dangerous, and that is far from the truth. I’ve noticed you in particular “manny” have been trolling many posts trying to instill fear into people. I would love to know your background. Are you in the health care field? Do you have educated knowledge on this subject? Or are you just scared like many people when they hear things like this in the news? It is scary, but what would be more scary is life without vaccines. I don’t think you understand how fortunate we are to live in an age with so many medical advancements. I recommend that you do more research on credible sites and talk to your primary physician about vaccines.
Yes, they are rare events, but death of natural influenza is probably even more rare. I am an MD and wrote a paper on influenza vaccine safety and efficacy available online here: http://www.jpands.org/vol11no2/ayoub.pdf
The NVIC website has a portal to VAERS, you can see how many deaths have been reported after flu shots yourself, the database representing probably less than 1% of all reactions reported. I believe is is vastly under reported and I base that upon just local cases of unexplained deaths in adults after a flu shot.
Pharmacy student, medical student, both are being taught a highly skewed science on role of vaccines in preventative healthcare.
Dr Chink, You need to contact your public health brothers downunder. Last year when kids were dropping like flies from the flushot and it had to be taken off the market, it was quickly explained as coincidental and eveything is back to normal. I’m sure they can direct you to the proper prarma PR firm!
You are certainly entitled to your opinion about vaccines, but the racist reference is entirely uncalled for and appalling. It says far more about your ignorance than about the validity of Dr. Chen’s statements.
I feel sick about this. Can’t imagine the pain they feel. When considering the risks involved with a flu shot, ask yourself a simple question…is getting the flu THAT worrisome that we take such risks? The simple answer, for me, is NO.
Everyone should read this interview: http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html
Instead of reading an interview by a conspiracy theorist of an anonymous “researcher,” try this instead.
http://www.immunize.org/concerns/offit_moser2009.pdf
”Nothing is so firmly believed as that of which we know least.”—Montaigne
The vaccination myth is the most widespread superstition modern medicine has managed to impose, but, being by the same token the most profitable, it will prove to be also one of the most enduring, though there was never the slightest of scientific evidence upholding it. Suffice it to say now that the various epidemics have experienced in all countries the same natural evolution of growth, decline, and eventual disappearance, whether vaccination or other therapies had been introduced or not. The only demonstrable effects were the widespread damages caused by the various vaccinations, none excluded. Most pediatricians we know in Italy and France do not vaccinate their own children, although they cannot refuse to vaccinate their clients’ children, if they want to retain their union licence to practice……..
read “Mommy” post above…clearly you have not done your homework…you should also ask yourself, what does a scientist who has made vaccines have to gain from telling the real truth about vaccines?
We need to take the profit out of Big Pharma
exactly!
You can actually take the profit out of Big Pharma by being vaccinated for the flu. When you come down with a cold you will either self medicate by choosing OTC products from the pharmacy or go to your doctor’s office and ask for a prescription. Oftentimes, viral infections (i.e. the flu or the common cold) are treated with antibiotics. Antibiotics treat bacterial infections not viral. This leads to an increased risk of superbugs (bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics). I support flu vaccinations because they have the potential of reducing your chance of becoming sick from the flu and decrease the unnecessary use of antibiotics. All in all you save money and don’t feed into “Big Pharma.”
That you chose Offit to support your blather and disinformation is testimony to your dishonesty. Your use of the term “conspiracy theorist” is also tainted.
Offit has been completely discredited.
The research he relies upon has been completely trashed.
The researcher (Poul Thorsen) who fraudulently posited that thimerosal in vaccines do not cause autism and upon whose research Offit has relied has been indicted for fraud, theft and conversion.
You give Israel a bad name.
I’ve been reading and enjoying this blog for a while, so it’s distressing to see reference to the vaccine/autism link that has been so thoroughly disproven. Here is more info about the myth that Amish children don’t vaccinate and that they don’t get autism. http://autism.about.com/b/2008/04/23/do-the-amish-vaccinate-indeed-they-do-and-their-autism-rates-may-be-lower.htm
I disagree it is a myth or been disproven. I think vaccines are just one of the environmental causes of ASD. I can’t dispute firsthand accounts by parents, one that I know personally, who have witnessed their child change from vaccinations. Science is not always correct or able to connect all the dots.
Children who have had vaccines get autism. Autism symptoms can come on suddenly–that is the nature of the condition. Your friend’s experience sounds very painful, but it is not proof of anything. It’s anecdotal evidence.
It is anecdotal, but I do not believe enough research has been done to refute a causal link combined with other factors, whether they are environmental toxic exposure, genetics, etc.
Furthermore, it is only the Lancet article that was truly critiqued. I don’t think you can ever truly prove or disprove the relationship between vaccines and autism. Epigenetics is too complex.
@ Hanna, you really do stick out like a soar thumb, why don’t you go get a real job!
Obviously over the yeras these shots have done many good in a lot of circumstances, However, the more you use them, the higher the risk and probability that some children are going to have a reaction of some sort to either the vaccine itself or something that is used to prepare the dose. If one child dies, or gets tragically ill, or is left as a vegetable as a result of a reacting to something in these or any vaccines, then we as a society have to demand that something be done!!!! We need to fine tune the vaccine, find what chemicals or additives are used to prepare this germ to be injected into out child’s body….It’s obvious that our children need protected against cildhood diseases…. that’s a given ….. however Is there no-on that has been appointed to protet the children
My opinion is that we have to create a croup in the field that can analyse and use that information to distinguish the differences that is causing the other childrend to have had allergec reactions against the children
that did well…
These shots have done NO bit of good, if you educated yourself then you would know!
It’s so sad! My heart is with her parents!
This is a tragic story. As a parent of young children myself , I can’t imagine what those parents are feeling. I do believe however, one should wait for the autopsy report. I am also a health care provider and know first hand that many more people, both young and old, die from the flu itself. It is serious and can be fatal for many individuals. These deaths, sadly, will never make the front page of newspapers or other media headline. Flu vaccines do save lives…. Nothing in medicine is ever 100% safe, period. Again., I really feel the media should wait to have autopsy results back before blaming the death on the flu shot.
I cannot prove it, but I certain my mother died as a result of the 2011 flu shot she received in Nov. 2010. She was ready to be released from a hospital stay after breaking her hip. Two days before her release, the hosptial asked if she wanted her flu shot while she was there. She said “yes, as she always gets one.” Within 24 hours, she was ICU fighting for her life. The infection control doctor said to me, “We do not know what got into her lungs, or how it got there, but it is a virus and we cannot fight it.” I instantly said, “well, just the day before she became ill she took the 2011 flu shot.” Of course, they denied any connection to the flu shot. I believe with all my heart this shot with it’s 5 innoculations (the 5th one not even FDA approved) killed her. The people need to educate themselves and not listen to the media or the doctors that push it (many of whom do not take the shot themselves). It’s all about money. According to one article I read, one of the virus’s was created in an American laboratory while at the same time, a vaccine was created to combat it…… It’s about money people….educated yourself. The drug companies need to make money, and many of the investors in these companies are our politial leaders who will pass it through the FDA. Before you inject any drug into your body, educate yourself….it should save your life or a loved one’s.
@Jennifer, I am so sorry to hear this, how awful! One of the many things you say is so important–EDUCATE YOURSELVES people! You’re right, it is about the money, it really doesn’t take much time to do the research, you could save lives. This is truly an INCONVENIENT truth to many people, and many people stay brainwashed until something tragic happens to them or a loved one. Don’t wait until it happens, take action now.
Baaaaa! Baaaaa!
You guys just keep on keepin’ on. GSK loves you all so much! And so does Pfizer. I’m actually surprised so many comments here have their lips so firmly preseed to big pharma’s anus. I wonder if there is a vaccine for that. If there is I’ll bet you guys will be the first to roll up sleeves.
Baaaaa!
Check out the movie “The Greater Good”
@ David, I couldn’t have said it better myself!
I completely understand what you are saying in this post and my heart goes out to those parents. I know that it is complex, and I understand that science doesn’t have all the answers. I always seek out naturopathic options first when it comes to medicine, and have spaced out my sons’ vaccines when I could–delaying Hep B because it is not necessary for public health…
However, the risk of posting something like this–with the link to the questionable article about the Amish–when you have a popular blog with so many followers is that it continues to spread fear by keeping alive a myth that was started by someone completely irresponsible with his research. There many be questions about vaccines, but there are only questions because we don’t remember the disfigurement of polio. We don’t remember (although we are unfortunately starting to as many parents choose not to vaccinate) the gasping breaths of an infant dying of whooping cough. We have the luxury of asking questions because we have the luxury of a population that is mostly immunized.
I hope that someday we can ask questions about vaccine safety in a way that encourages vaccine makers to come up with safer vaccines, instead of the polarized talk I see on this post (I’m talking to you@David–do you feel better now using all those big words?) that serves nothing but to spread fear.
Wendy, you make good points about our “luxury” and polio. I believe I posted fairly only this tragedy by quoting about health officials not confirming the link and stating my opinions on vaccines as such. I also stated I am not 100% anti-vaccine. Injuries happen. Parents need to understand the risks of both illness and vaccines. There is not always clear answers. I appreciate your comments.
No one has ever said vaccinations are safe. They say THE BENEFIT TO THE MANY OUTWEIGHS THE RISK TO THE FEW. You’ll want to remember that in the event of a serious side effect to yourself or loved one if you ever attempt legal action. Personally to me it’s not worth the death of a child. I’ve had friends who’s children all had whooping cough. Yeah it wasn’t pleasant, but they didn’t die. There are many factors of adverse side effects from any vac. The health at the time of injection, genetics, enviormental factors etc. The chances of my child being one of the FEW is not worth it to me. I’ve done my research and know enough that it’s all about $ not health. Just because it comes from the mouth of a “DR.” does not make it true. Pertaining to ANYTHING. That is why Dr’s are indoctrinated. They are handed down lies by liars. And spew their bs to the population of sheep who will believe it because they went to school to become indoctrinated. Take your health into your own hands. Or be led like a lemming.
@Shannon D, THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Here are 3 headlines from emails received TODAY:
SBHC: West Virginia Dept. of Health makes nearly double the profit using schools as vaccine centers
http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/sbhcwest-virginia-dept-of-health-makes-profit-from-using-schools-as-vaccine-centers/
http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/killed-by-the-establishment-premature-twins-receive-9-vaccines-in-one-day/
Killed by the establishment: Premature twins receive 9 vaccines in one day
Apoptosis. 2012 Jan 17. [Epub ahead of print]
Hepatitis B vaccine induces apoptotic death in Hepa1-6 cells.
Hamza H, Cao J, Li X, Li C, Zhu M, Zhao S.
BMJ. 2012 Jan 16;344:e457. doi: 10.1136/bmj.e457.
Flu vaccine investigator is suspended for four months for research fraud.
Dyer C.
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BMJ.
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http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e457
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A researcher on flu vaccines who forged colleagues’ signatures, asked a nurse to sign a false declaration, and recruited himself into a study under a disguised name has been suspended from practice for four months for research fraud.
Iain Stephenson, honorary consultant physician at the University Hospital of Leicester NHS Trust and a clinical senior lecturer at Leicester University, was the principal investigator in one study, an open label study, and a co-investigator in a second, known as the “prime boost study.”
Dr Stephenson’s actions, which also included destroying an original log sheet and replacing it …
The reason that so many here are seemingly so supportive of the vaccine program is because they are being paid to attend blogs like this anytime something critical to an industry surfaces. This is pretty well known, mostly through PR firms and paid services.
Hanah sticks out liek a sore thumb. Here is another piece on the Amish:
http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/07/amish-autism.html
There is no question vaccines cause autism in some individuals. The research that refutes it is pharma-funded, and pretty pathetic. Where is the CDCs study on unvaccinated populations? Why not? Because we all know that answer. I have seen many kids regress after vaccines, some as quickly as a few hour, and suddenly, and that is just the nature of vaccine injury!
I suggest you read David Kirby’s Book evidence of harm, sign up for Ageof Autism blog, etc. NVIC.org, Mecorla.com, GenerationRescue website. This is a tragic story. As a physician, I have seen numerous vaccine reactions. The effectiveness of the vaccines are highly questionable, and no, smallpox was not irradicated by a vaccine!http://www.whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html
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We have been told that there is no link between autism and vaccines; yet how is it that thousands of parents have witnessed their child regress into autism after a vaccination, usually MMR (or multiple vaccines given in one day)? I remember reading that there were something like 5000 cases filed with the Vaccine Court, of children who regressed into autism following vaccination–& that is only in the U.S. In the UK (Britain), which I believe has a vaccine schedule similar to the U.S., the rate of autism is about the same as in the U.S. In countries that give fewer vaccinations, the incidence of autism is much lower.
Children and infants in the U.S. receive more vaccines than in any other country, and the U.S. has one of the highest rates of infant death among developed countries.
Bill Gates wants a universal flu vaccine https://theweek.com/speedreads/770227/bill-gates-wants-universal-flu-vaccine
Bill Gates Dirty Tricks in Burkina Faso and Nigeria https://www.jamiiforums.com/threads/bill-gates-dirty-tricks-in-burkina-faso-and-nigeria.1617031/
awww heck I might as well just put my whole twitter thread 🙂 https://twitter.com/klp1965/status/1173265517181906945